I'm trying to make sure that I am using ftp over ssl. I have been using Filezilla. There are two ways to connect: 1) with the "Open Site Manager" button as described in your post:http://support.Winhost.com/KB/a666/how-to-set-up-filezilla-to-use-ftp-over-ssl.aspx 2) Manually enter the Host,username, and password on Filezilla's log in bar. #1 does not work no matter what I try (I've been trying for more than an hour) and I get : Status: Connection established, waiting for welcome message... Response: 220-Microsoft FTP Service Response: 220 Winhost.com FTP Command: AUTH TLS Response: 234 AUTH command ok. Expecting TLS Negotiation. Status: Initializing TLS... Error: Connection timed out Error: Could not connect to server Statu #2 works but I am not sure that it logs in via ssl When I use #2 part of the message I get includes: Response: 211-Extended features supported: Response: LANG EN* Response: UTF8 Response: AUTH TLS;TLS-C;SSL;TLS-P; Well this says that these features are supported but it doesn't say that they are in use. Does anyone know how to tell if you are actually connected via ssl? Thanks in advance.